Comments on: Sunday morning bonbons http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/2008/12/07/sunday-morning-bonbons-071208/ Wed, 08 Sep 2010 04:23:28 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Mike Tidmus http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/2008/12/07/sunday-morning-bonbons-071208/comment-page-1/#comment-605 Mike Tidmus Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:12:18 +0000 http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/?p=6040#comment-605 <a href="http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2008/12/07/confidential_to_caitlin_flanag" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Dan Savage</strong></a> has an excellent response to Caitlin Flanagan and Benjamin Schwarz's NYT op-ed: <blockquote>For many of us—Obama supporters, just as concerned about the economy as anyone else—marriage equality is one of the "<strong>big issues</strong>." Sorry. And, sorry, but we're going to keep pressing for our full civil rights. That many straight African Americans object to same-sex marriage not just for religion reasons, but also because "many blacks feel a significant aversion to homosexuality itself" is, um, a very interesting observation, but I don't see how you get from that assertion to your strongly implied, although never explicitly stated, advice for gay and lesbian Americans: <strong>STFU</strong>, give this marriage equality thing a rest, so that we can "regain... lost ground," and focus on the "big issues," the important stuff, the stuff that matters—like our 401Ks.</blockquote> Dan Savage has an excellent response to Caitlin Flanagan and Benjamin Schwarz’s NYT op-ed:

For many of us—Obama supporters, just as concerned about the economy as anyone else—marriage equality is one of the “big issues.” Sorry.

And, sorry, but we’re going to keep pressing for our full civil rights. That many straight African Americans object to same-sex marriage not just for religion reasons, but also because “many blacks feel a significant aversion to homosexuality itself” is, um, a very interesting observation, but I don’t see how you get from that assertion to your strongly implied, although never explicitly stated, advice for gay and lesbian Americans: STFU, give this marriage equality thing a rest, so that we can “regain… lost ground,” and focus on the “big issues,” the important stuff, the stuff that matters—like our 401Ks.

]]> By: Mike Tidmus http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/2008/12/07/sunday-morning-bonbons-071208/comment-page-1/#comment-604 Mike Tidmus Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:06:32 +0000 http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/?p=6040#comment-604 Nobody, black or white, who goes out and bashes queers on Saturday night should be immune from criticism just because, on Sunday morning, they’re sitting in church singing <em>Amazing Grace</em>. Nobody, black or white, who goes out and bashes queers on Saturday night should be immune from criticism just because, on Sunday morning, they’re sitting in church singing Amazing Grace.

]]> By: TheRadicalRealist http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/2008/12/07/sunday-morning-bonbons-071208/comment-page-1/#comment-600 TheRadicalRealist Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:46:59 +0000 http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/?p=6040#comment-600 I am half black and half asian and I am truly disgusted by the black churches. As if the stunning hypocrisy exhibited by blacks toward gays was not horrendous enough, the black community has to go and accuse the LGBT community of being racist just for pointing out the fact that the majority of black voters are homophobic fools. Anyone who is socially conservative because of their religious (read: delusional) beliefs is a fucking moron, no matter what color their skin is. The LGBT community needs to hold all homophobes accountable for their stupidity. Just because people are black doesn't mean they get a free pass to be religious retards. Also, I am seeing too damn much political correctness coming from white LGBT people regarding this problem. Black fundamentalists are no better than white fundamentalists, plain and simple. It is true that black voters did not single-handedly pass Prop 8, but they sure as hell did not help defeat it. Blacks need to know that the stupidity and hypocrisy that flourishes within their own community is not acceptable in the least. There is no excuse for religious idiocy, not for whites, not for blacks, not for anyone. I am half black and half asian and I am truly disgusted by the black churches. As if the stunning hypocrisy exhibited by blacks toward gays was not horrendous enough, the black community has to go and accuse the LGBT community of being racist just for pointing out the fact that the majority of black voters are homophobic fools. Anyone who is socially conservative because of their religious (read: delusional) beliefs is a fucking moron, no matter what color their skin is. The LGBT community needs to hold all homophobes accountable for their stupidity. Just because people are black doesn’t mean they get a free pass to be religious retards. Also, I am seeing too damn much political correctness coming from white LGBT people regarding this problem. Black fundamentalists are no better than white fundamentalists, plain and simple. It is true that black voters did not single-handedly pass Prop 8, but they sure as hell did not help defeat it.
Blacks need to know that the stupidity and hypocrisy that flourishes within their own community is not acceptable in the least. There is no excuse for religious idiocy, not for whites, not for blacks, not for anyone.

]]> By: thescoop http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/2008/12/07/sunday-morning-bonbons-071208/comment-page-1/#comment-598 thescoop Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:07:34 +0000 http://www.miketidmus.com/blog/?p=6040#comment-598 Black America and the N-word: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP2U0jmZjec" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP2U0jmZjec</a> Black America and the N-word:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP2U0jmZjec

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